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PostSubject: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:15 pm

EDIT

Here's the real rec: http://ifile.it/weqpnlv
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Bazingaa, Nemo, Ink VS Razbijac, Andres, & Mirez

here's a 3v3 game with Mirez.. Mirez the old expert really fought valiantly, but the opposing team eventually overpowered the giant himself

Mirez finally resigns, and his two minions, upon seeing the defeat of their master, followed suit

enjoy

lol!



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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:33 pm

bleah, this is why I do not like teamgames, I would've destroyed yellow if blue didn't help him. I played 1v2 all game and still lost.

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:10 pm

Julian Assange wrote:
Bazingaa, Nemo, Ink VS Razbijac, Andres, & Mirez

here's a 3v3 game with Mirez.. Mirez the old expert really fought valiantly, but the opposing team eventually overpowered the giant himselfMirez finally resigns, and his two minions, upon seeing the defeat of their master, followed suit

enjoy

Rec game: http://ifile.it/0uh36sa

All hail the great one, Bow before your master.

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:39 pm

goddamit this is the 4th teamgame today I lost because my allie(s) is noob.
Back to 1v1's

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:10 pm

It's because you play 2v2's like two separate 1v1's.

I was in that Sav game and we both had poor partners but instead of focusing on teamplay you simply locked onto my partner and didn't see that my entire army had left your partners los and came to your base. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and I'm not trying to sound arrogant, (and rdm gave me a counterciv), but the reason you lost wasn't because you had a bad partner, but because you had bad teamplay.
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:58 pm

At least your partner was able to keep himself somewhat alive, mine had 6 hoplites and was sitting in his base even after I had asked him to help. Besides he lagged like crazy.

I do not play teamgames like they are seperate 1v1's, I was hammering on my opponent because kronos > zeus on low hunt. I assumed my part would do the same considering he was zeus and you were loki, but he did nothing.

What was I supposed to do? Help him defend? Oh yeah great idea kronos vs loki. You'd just hersir raid me into obivion and I'll end up fighting vs you and your ally anyways. Besides he lagged like crazy.

On eso where you usually choose your ally, you make a strategy, match your gods. When one gets doubled the other helps/does something else. On gameranger all my allies do is sit in their base and wait to be destroyed. Hardly any of them understands english so teamplay is out of the question (except me raiding their opponents).

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:02 pm

I heimdall rushed my opponent, because match-ups mean nothing versus 90% of GR, so you weren't going to get hersir raided. And precisely what you said in parentheses would have been the best choice. My partner was dead, your partner was dead, I knew this so I went to your base during the double cease and you should have gone to mine. I don't know why you stayed at greens base because he was dead and honestly wouldn't be a threat for probably at least 10 more minutes.

Oh, and my partner made 15 mil, yours made 10. Though my guys eco was almost twice as good somehow without hunting. 11 tongue
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:07 pm

Well what exactly was I going to do with turma's and prometheans vs a towncenter? Difference is you could take down my tc and anything around it while I could do nothing other then harass villagers. You could've just went green and defeated my army. There's no way atty in classical can defeat that many hersir.
Thats why I resigned, in a 1v1 you would never have that many in the first place. Now you could basically do whatever you wanted the first 10 minutes.

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:25 pm

Yea like I said earlier I got an indirect counterciv so it wasn't going to be easy, but if you kill my eco with non-hero turma and send rest of your (faster)army to pick away at mine would have given you best chance to win. Obviously its just advanced, I just think its pointless to say "I'm done with teamgames because of noob partners" when it seems like to me you just choose the wrong strategy.
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:33 pm

How did I choose the wrong strategy? early pressure is the best thing kronos can do vs zeus. How am I supposed to know my ally was a noob? I made the correct decisions and I played correctly, the only reason I lost was because of my sucky partner.

And if you would care to take a look at the rec posted in this topic you'd see that this goes for many games. I always get doubled the entire game and my allies do nothing.

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:33 am

Okay, it was poor word choice to say "wrong strategy", but rather that you made the wrong strategic move by staying put during the doublecease.

Think of it like this:

Keep everything the same from that game except instead of Loki, I was Kronos. Now after the game where you had stayed on my partners doorstep during doublecease, and still keeping the same game, I had gone to your base and forced you to resign by killing villagers. Would you still say you made the right strategic decision to stay put during cease instead of going to my base?

You also said in an earlier post that with your turma/prom combo that you wouldn't be able to take down my town center, but if you look again at the rec my partners base was better defended than mine.



And yes I get doubled a lot too, actually the last game I have recorded is one where I get a 2v1. (I can post it if you don't believe me Razz)


EDIT: And rec posted is wrong one, some Batfish/Ink 2v2


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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:40 am

Better resign when u see u've got n00b team
BTW thts not the game its a 2v2
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:04 am

AoL_HuSKeR wrote:
Okay, it was poor word choice to say "wrong strategy", but rather that you made the wrong strategic move by staying put during the doublecease.

Think of it like this:

Keep everything the same from that game except instead of Loki, I was Kronos. Now after the game where you had stayed on my partners doorstep during doublecease, and still keeping the same game, I had gone to your base and forced you to resign by killing villagers. Would you still say you made the right strategic decision to stay put during cease instead of going to my base?

You also said in an earlier post that with your turma/prom combo that you wouldn't be able to take down my town center, but if you look again at the rec my partners base was better defended than mine.



And yes I get doubled a lot too, actually the last game I have recorded is one where I get a 2v1. (I can post it if you don't believe me Razz)


EDIT: And rec posted is wrong one, some Batfish/Ink 2v2

strange... anyway here's the actual 3v3 rec:

http://ifile.it/weqpnlv
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:54 pm

AoL_HuSKeR wrote:
Okay, it was poor word choice to say "wrong strategy", but rather that you made the wrong strategic move by staying put during the doublecease.

Think of it like this:

Keep everything the same from that game except instead of Loki, I was Kronos. Now after the game where you had stayed on my partners doorstep during doublecease, and still keeping the same game, I had gone to your base and forced you to resign by killing villagers. Would you still say you made the right strategic decision to stay put during cease instead of going to my base?

You also said in an earlier post that with your turma/prom combo that you wouldn't be able to take down my town center, but if you look again at the rec my partners base was better defended than mine.



And yes I get doubled a lot too, actually the last game I have recorded is one where I get a 2v1. (I can post it if you don't believe me Razz)


EDIT: And rec posted is wrong one, some Batfish/Ink 2v2
If you were kronos things would've been different. One of the major reasons that has gone unnoticed was that my ally lagged like hell. Fact remains you had a considerably force of hersir which kronos cannot defeat with turma/proms. All I could do is try to harras your villagers while you could destroy my entire base.

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:00 am

Mirez wrote:
goddamit this is the 4th teamgame today I lost because my allie(s) is noob.
Back to 1v1's
omfg...comeon men..loosing few matches coz of noob allies made u quit team games thts hillarious...u r so disheartd like u loosed all things lol...u r not the only guy who has been cursed...men this happens with every body...its very common in gr specially in 3v3's whr match strts and u see one of ur team mate building temple rofl..and whn u need help u flare and whn u look at his army u see his ulfa standing still and no army;just few herseries collecting relics!!
u commented anywhr in post tht gr is gud for noobs thn why u hope to hav pros in ur team lmfao...its just a bit of hard luck...just play for fun men if u see noobs in ur team...every1 strts being noob Wink even me and u(i am still) go on men play gud games and all the best for ur team lolz

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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:36 pm

Mirez wrote:
bleah, this is why I do not like teamgames,

That's why, block noobs, & play team games with friends =) . Nowadays, only noobs come even if you have put "Good players/Pros Only" in ur description ..
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PostSubject: Re: 3v3 with Mirez   Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:52 pm

From what i experience, people won't read your description, then just join and say "go". I'll start blocking idiots too i think... useful function xD
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