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PostSubject: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:11 am

since clown made a post claiming his little circle jerk is a clan here is what actually happened.

Clown is an annoying little 12 year old girl sounding nerd so it was hilarious to just ban him off the server move him to a different room and so on everybody in the clan though it was funny as hell. so he used to cry all the time to chicks that i bully him which i did so i felt bad so id lay off. but he was just too damm nerdy and just just keep banning him and so on. So eventually chicks made his own server so he and clown could escape when clown would come crying to him. So chicks knew that i owned all the clan assets the website the ventrillo server the pk clan group on this site etc... so he was insecure and jealous so he made a new clan server and then begged everyone to come there while i was away then he messed up my server and my website so people couldn't get on and pronounced himself the leader of the pk clan. So that's pretty much the whole story he still comes on my vent when im not there and begges people to come to his server. Saaaaaaaaaad.


The official clan info

http://www.theplayerkillers.com/ (website)

vent4.gameservers.com port# 4345 (ventrillo)

thank you,


the pk clan leader, Vaga
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:58 am

clown sounds like a clown lmao btw is she really 12?
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:09 am

nah hes like 16 but he sounds like a 12 year old girl
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:42 pm

gay.
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:07 pm

Im not really into believing what VAGinA says.
Other, more chilled ppl like Luster told me that he's the one who has started to take over PK..
This seems more reasonable than the story above.


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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:20 pm

lol <3 u too naka lusta is aright i heard he beat u in dm lol! idk what rake over means so i cant really respond
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:52 pm

Corrected my typo, check again.
No need to start being offensive again, yeah he beat me in norse war lol. Well i gave my lessons to him when i played greek gods or egyptian ones, so there is no real need to discuss this.
Oh and i beat him in supre, so what now?
And btw you cant respond because im fruiting correct muhuhuhuhahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:26 am

lol ur too hostile luster is good he beat me in sup as well, ur ego is too fragile to think im always attacking you lol
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:13 am

Let's study the original post.

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since clown made a post claiming his little circle jerk is a clan here is what actually happened.

Clown is an annoying little 12 year old girl sounding nerd so it was hilarious to just ban him off the server move him to a different room and so on everybody in the clan though it was funny as hell. so he used to cry all the time to chicks that i bully him which i did so i felt bad so id lay off. but he was just too damm nerdy and just just keep banning him and so on. So eventually chicks made his own server so he and clown could escape when clown would come crying to him. So chicks knew that i owned all the clan assets the website the ventrillo server the pk clan group on this site etc... so he was insecure and jealous so he made a new clan server and then begged everyone to come there while i was away then he messed up my server and my website so people couldn't get on and pronounced himself the leader of the pk clan. So that's pretty much the whole story he still comes on my vent when im not there and begges people to come to his server. Saaaaaaaaaad.

1. Notice how instead of staying inside of the original forum topic, Vaga started a new topic. This demonstrates an ignorance of forum netiquette.

2. Notice the number of insults, which are underlined in the quote. Again, instead of trying to make some sense, Vaga just keeps throwing ad hominems and insults at us. Good job, Vaga.

3. Notice how Vaga admits to being a bully. What kind of staff member would repetitively bully one of his best assets in the context of a clan that was as small as PK was several months ago? If kicking me off our ventrilo server happened a few times as a joke, that would be one thing; but it came to the point where it looked like Vaga had something personal against me.

One of the last straws to break the camel's back was a situation where Vaga and one other PK member made fun of me in an offensive manner because I was objecting to overly sexual nature of their conversation. I am coming from a background that rejects premarital sex and so, I did not appreciate how instead of discussing the game (i.e., AoM), they were discussing things too filthy to talk about on this forum.

As it is, I get easily sidetracked when people are not on-topic while I am trying to play. While I do not remember if I was in-game or not that day, the bottom line was that Vaga behaved improperly as a staff member. As such, Chicks and I discussed his removal on multiple occasions during the last two months or so.

Now, if you want to call that "crying on Chicks' shoulders," go ahead. Chicks has been a way better friend to me lately and so, he's the main reason why I stayed in the clan in the first place. If one leader was going to mess with me like that and the other leader was going to be apathetic, I would have left. However, Chicks kept me in the clan and so, here we are.

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So chicks knew that i owned all the clan assets the website the ventrillo server the pk clan group on this site etc... so he was insecure and jealous so he made a new clan server and then begged everyone to come there while i was away then he messed up my server and my website so people couldn't get on and pronounced himself the leader of the pk clan

4. Vaga claims that he owned the clan's assets; that is, our site, ventrilo server, and the PK group on this forum. If that were the case, Chicks would not have been able to delete our previous website (www.thepkclan.com IIRC) or our previous server (which was hosted by gameservers.com or something - that is, it was a public server that was not owned by either Chicks or Vaga, who were merely admins or keepers of the server). As for the PK group on this forum, nobody owns it. What's preventing PK members from choosing to create a new group without Vaga? In summary, Vaga's claim doesn't line up with how Chicks was able to delete his assets in the first place.

5. As for the claim that Chicks was insecure, that is absurd. Vaga again shows a lack of maturity by insulting Chicks instead of trying to deal with why Chicks would not like his own co-leader. The point here is that Chicks and I did not appreciate your behavior towards other clan members. We did not appreciate your attitude towards our attempts to reorganize the clan (i.e., ranking system, clan constitution, etc.).

Inevitably, there was going to be a conflict between your complacency and our desire to improve the clan. Thus, we had a choice. We could either put up with your dead weight or deal with you. We chose to get rid of you instead of putting up with the kind of behavior that you have shown in these two forum topics and elsewhere. As the owner of the server and site, Chicks deleted everything and is now working with me to move our clan to a new site. We already have a new server. The rest is obviously history.

6. As for the claim that Chicks declared himself to be the leader of the clan, Vaga's argument is that Vaga founded the clan and was the original leader. Thus, Chicks is wrong to "overthrow" Vaga. As for me, I believe this point is an irrelevant argument over ancient history. Since I joined about a year ago, Chicks has been running the show and so, in my view, even if Vaga was the original founder or whatever, he acted like a sidekick. Thus, in my view, Chicks was the de facto leader regardless of who founded the clan several years ago.

In sum, Vaga's just throwing up smokescreens to cover the issue of Chicks and my dissatisfaction with his behavior. Vaga was a poor-quality staff member and he had to go. We do not regret our decision to get rid of him in any way, shape, or form. Good riddance.

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he still comes on my vent when im not there and begges people to come to his server.

7. I would challenge you to prove this. As the admin of your current server, do you have the ability to post the log of who has logged in to your server? Can you match Chicks' IP with the IP on your restored forum? If you are going to make that claim, back it up.

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clown sounds like a clown lmao btw is she really 12?

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nah hes like 16 but he sounds like a 12 year old girl

8. As for myself, I am a teenager and I freely admit that my voice is not as low as I would like to be. However, I believe that I have more maturity than a lot of people with lower voices and so, I try to make up for my voice with meaningful things to say. This is in obvious contrast to the depravity and impudence that Vaga has demonstrated in these two topics.

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Im not really into believing what VAGinA says.
Other, more chilled ppl like Luster told me that he's the one who has started to take over PK..
This seems more reasonable than the story above.

9. I am not familiar with what Luster has said. Could you please elaborate, Nakamura?

10. As for this business of Luster's skill, he's a decent Norse player and an up-and-coming Egyptian player. However, Luster's skill is not relevant to this discussion. Let's stay on-topic.
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:48 am

clown this is why i make fun of you.... your a nerd
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:57 am

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Nerd: An intelligent but single-minded expert in a particular technical field or profession. (WordWeb Pro.)

Thank you, Vaga, for acknowledging my intellectual superiority. Nevertheless, he probably intended it as an insult. In which case, again! Vaga can only insult me, thus making an ass of himself and proving my original point; that is, Vaga was not fit to be in our clan. For the record, though, I'm someone who's ready to become a professional adult who has something to contribute to this community and to my society. Can the same be said of Vaga? GG Vaga.

(BTW, his Odin "FH" is a sight to behold.)
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:10 am

lol clown i cant make fun of you when you do it yourself. and for the record just because you have autism i will always be smarter then you.... gg no re
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:26 am

How am I making fun of myself when refuting your incompetence and explaining to the public why you don't belong in a clan that's trying to go to the next level?

As for autism, I refuse to shy away from it. Yes, I am autistic. Yes, I have certain "imbalances" in how I think. Yes, this is who I am. Do you have a problem with it? And again, instead of dealing with the facts that I have tried to present, Vaga keeps using ad hominem arguments. Look at how often he attacks the messenger instead of the message. How does autism affect this discussion? Who cares if I am autistic? What's the point, Vaga? What are you getting at? Are you going to try to explain why my testimony here is inaccurate?

BTW, is it just me or does this guy have no understanding of how to write? I would love to talk to his English teacher. I can only imagine how good his high school theses were.
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:41 am

clown i cant reason with you an an intellectual level because u have physical limitations from being my equal and that is just cruel but what can you do. as for your 3 page testimony i did not read it was too long, my point being is there is no point to argue with you because u fail to grasp the complete veiw of reality. in your mind you think you are providing a valid argument but in reality you are just making an idiot out of yourself. even if you have chicks nuts balls-deep in your throat i still like you clown but then again i never met a person i genually disliked even if chicks is a little bitch i still like him too. i guess there is something abnormal about that as well. anyway clown try to use your own brain as much as you can, when you cant tell your being spoon-fed information that's dangerous, especially in your case
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:39 am

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physical limitations

See, you're trying to make it personal instead of dealing with the facts that I have tried to present.

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as for your 3 page testimony i did not read it was too long

3 pages, LOL? Thus, you are too lazy to confront the issue.

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in your mind you think you are providing a valid argument

At least I have presented an argument in the first place? You're not even trying to refute what I have stated. As it is, I have more credibility than you. Every time we go through this dance of me reminding you to stick to the point and you insulting me, you lose credibility. Are you aware of that?

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even if you have chicks nuts balls-deep in your throat

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chicks is a little bitch

Again, more insults. Again, Vaga refuses to deal with the issue at hand? I thought he was the adult here and I was the child with a mental "illness" (which is more of a "difference" than an "illness")?

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anyway clown try to use your own brain as much as you can, when you cant tell your being spoon-fed information that's dangerous, especially in your case

I am using my brain. If my information is spoon-fed with regard to the issue of why you are no longer in the PK clan, then why don't you prove it?

As for the public, I think he's alluding to the nature of my religious background vs. his secularism and atheism. In which case, he needs to get it through his head that I am here to discuss clan business and I am not here to discuss why I reject humanism and materialism. Again, he needs to get back on-topic and stick to the matter at hand.

I'm ready to give up, though. This is like arguing with a toddler. You wanna talk about child abuse...!

I challenge Vaga to give me one reason to continue this discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: The PK clan   Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:06 am

again too long to read ima respond with song