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PostSubject: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:11 pm

i heard there is a hoplite rush?

how is this done please tell me.




ok i am posting it here so i don flood forum

is this a well executed hoplite rush?

http://www.pclive-assistance.fr/share/files/get/BzX3yZr4Z7/recorded-game-1.rcx


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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:50 pm

By making lots of Hoplites and rushing.
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:47 pm

use zeus
up fast
make 3 barracks and buy loads of hoplites
rush

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:07 am

hm ok so a 4:30 up is good right?
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:33 pm

yeah 4:30 can work

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:34 pm

I thnk this will help u a lil bit....try this dude..... Very Happy
Buliding Order:-
1st - 6th = Food
7th - 9th = Wood
10th - 12th = Gold (11th - house, then gold)
13th - 16th = Food
17th - 18th = Gold
19th = Wood
20th = Food...
and pls choose Athena to advance lol Laughing....hehe
make 3 barracks and strt pumping hopelites...and u r all ready for ur rush... cheers
just practise lil bit and u will b very gud soon....
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:19 pm

Odysseus wrote:

just practise lil bit and u will b very gud soon....

lol
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:02 pm

Odysseus wrote:
I thnk this will help u a lil bit....try this dude..... Very Happy
Buliding Order:-
1st - 6th = Food
7th - 9th = Wood
10th - 12th = Gold (11th - house, then gold)
13th - 16th = Food
17th - 18th = Gold
19th = Wood
20th = Food...
and pls choose Athena to advance lol Laughing....hehe
make 3 barracks and strt pumping hopelites...and u r all ready for ur rush... cheers
just practise lil bit and u will b very gud soon....
it's hardly a rush when you up that late

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:14 pm

+1
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:22 pm

yea i need a 4 30 advance like mirez suggested doin oddyssues way is way too time consuming but i really appreciate the info becuz a newb like me cud use all the info one cud offer thanks =)

btw did anyone even watch my rec if so can you tell me what i did wrong i upped at 430ish and started to attack with lik a group of hoplites(5) at 6 mins and sumthing secs forgot and beated the bot at 10 mins exactly lol but please watch and tell me my wrong doings.
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:49 am

well i suggested this keeping in mind tht u r new...with less villagers u will require shifting,and shifting will b lil tough for u as u r new...and 4:30 advance is gud in 1vs1...bt this build order i mentioned i guess is gud for team games....it requires time to get excell in any rush...so i still suggest practice from easy level thn hard..Smile...


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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:52 am

IceStar wrote:
Odysseus wrote:

just practise lil bit and u will b very gud soon....

lol
i just tried to cheer a new guy dude... stop commenting on such thngs.... Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:07 pm

Icestar, what you are doing is effectively spamming. Unless your going to say anything meaningful in your posts, dont post. It is of no significance to anyone when you post things like "+1" or "lol"
Say something relevant.

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:10 pm

hm ok hers a off topic question real quick i see you guys on this forum but i never see any of you on gameranger i am currently a noob but i don want to play other noobs i want to play with you guys and learn from you guys.
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:35 pm

I've played quite a few games today

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:05 pm

i prob missed u or something but u prob don wanna lay 1v1 with me i want to play team game so that way i have some type of chance.lol
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:25 pm

The best way to get better is to only play 1v1. One of the best on eso told me that and its true. Like you said, in group games you end up relying on your partner to save you which is not a good way to progress. After you get better you can play team games sure.

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:17 am

1v1 is usually alot easier.

In a 2v2 or 3v3 you sometimes have much harder fights and you sometimes have to fight 2 or more people at the same time. Can get double rushed, or maybe even a normal Loki rush can take you by suprise because you have no idea what god you are fighting.

Scouting, map control, gold starving, fighting is alot easier in 1v1.
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:19 am

gallantgreg wrote:
1v1 is usually alot easier.

In a 2v2 or 3v3 you sometimes have much harder fights and you sometimes have to fight 2 or more people at the same time. Can get double rushed, or maybe even a normal Loki rush can take you by suprise because you have no idea what god you are fighting.

Scouting, map control, gold starving, fighting is alot easier in 1v1.
But thats the point. If you are constantly getting 2v1'd or not attacked at all, you arent learning to key elements of fighting in team games. Getting 2v1'd means u die too fast before you do anything. First you have to get better in a fair environment, then worry about team games later.

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:35 am

hm ok i see i will do 1v1 matches for a little till i get good at them then i will play team games =)
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:24 pm

I wouldn't bother doing hoplite rushes if I were you though

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:39 pm

hm why is that?

i am too noob right
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:49 pm

No, its just that the strategy itself isnt that great. Hoplites are bad at raiding. They are usually just good fighters and classical siege. Usually you would want to go for cavalry and just keep killing villagers whilst saving yours, getting upgrades, getting heroic and pretty much just outgrowing your opponent and THEN finishing them off.
Being noob has nothing to do with it. By the way i wouldnt call you noob. Considering you only started aom recently, from what I saw in that rec you did a VERY decent job. Keep at it.

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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:54 pm

wow o wow!! i am decent? =)=)=) coming from you is very pleasing also a smd yony told me the same thing he said i was better then most gr players but didnt believe him but comin from you i do =) and he was also the one who told me about the hoplite rush and he said it was very strong rush but i will listen to you becuz u r pro and my friend Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

my confidence flew high right now cuz of this lol
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PostSubject: Re: how is a hoplite rush performed?   Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:07 am

lol just make sure that confidence doesnt become cockiness. Meh Yony is ok but im better than him. I've beaten him quite a few times. Though i dont know now, im rather rusty. But yeah, hoplite rush is not that great. Its ok on the lower level because after losing TC and some villagers most people tend to give up. But if the person just attacks your hoplites with half their army and raids your villagers with the other then your hoplites will die fast, so will your economy and for what, a TC and a few Barracks/longhouse etc. Buildings arent that expensive. You have to consider what it means to raid. Raiding does a lot more damage in terms of his resources. If as soon as you up, you start harrassing his gold, he wont even be able to make an army. No army, no defences, you can just keep growing your base without the fear of attack because hes too busy trying to fend you off and its not working because he cant make any units.

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