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PostSubject: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:32 am

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High hunt general rushing bos
Get HD
5 food (including starting 3)
2 wood
2 gold
1wood (build house with gold vill)
rest food adv around 430 ish
U can adv 420 ish if u go 4-2-2 rest food. 430 athena rush or cent rush(aka raiding). make 2 barracks or 1 barrack 1 arch. Ur choice. 3 buildings too expensive as early greek imo, Get buildings when ur eco strong enough. As for now spam units constantly from 2 buildings. Get jason first, get oddy a lil later cause u need the wood for barracks and arch. Arrange eco 10-5-4-1. When u have enough res build mil buildings like 3 barracks 2 arch. I prefer not to aq with mil buildings save res for eco ups/armory ups. Also dont get eco ups when rushing at 420 cause u wont be able to hop spam as early and effectively, u can get eco ups if doing 430. Wall ur base with ur extra gold to protect urself from raids (common sense) Build ur barracks at home, build forward if you see atty doing 2tc boom. Otherwise atty early game> greek early game. Only build forward if ur opponent very passive otherwise villie harass on vill building and other crap like wolves make fb not worth it. Hit their hunt 1st. Then attack gold tower. Or attack gold tower then hunt ur choice. I prefer attacking gold tower 1st. Keep opp in base while u get map control. Remeber to get eco and armory ups as the game progresses. Get 4v2 tc advantage asap.
Go hermes/apollo/ hera if going gold control/map control.
Go athena/dino/heph if u want to to have cheap ups, and supped up infantry/ killer late game.
Also go hermes/dino/hera vs atty. I find it very effective as u will most likely have 1 major battle over a tc that decides outcome of game. More typical than most other civ games.
Go minor gods which u feel comfortable with and depending on situation. (aka dont think hera suks).

Rushing on water athena dino heph
1 to build dock 2 wood. builder vill goes to build house then lumber camp.
after 2 wood vill drop off wood 1 time send them to food (pigs preferbly if not build granary next to chicken or boars).
send 1 more to food total of 3
send 2 more to wood (3 food 3 wood now)
2 more wood
rest food. Except last 1 to gold.
adv around 445. u can adv 430 by building 1 less vill.
9 wood 5 gold rest food
put a couple more vills to wood so u can build mil buildings then alternate between food and gold.
Keep to 1 dock and spam boats out of it. Then build 2 barracks and spam hops. Keep making him u going heavy on water while u take down his docks with hops. U should be able to win water unless opp dock spam in whcih case u stop spamming hops and go heavier on water with 3 docks spam boats. Mean while keep ur hops attacking his houses and vills.

Grush (medi/ana) athena/hermes dino heph
If heres grush spam pegasus for meatshield
same as above
arrange eco with 2x as many vills on wood as gold. send 1 vill to build dock and another to build house. send builder to gold. Send vills to wood about 20. Then vills to gold 15 ish. As u gain adv on water make fishing boats get fishing up. Get eco ups as u adv to classical. Get bowsaw/ 3rd dock when u have res. Make barrack and archery around 8-9 min ish my preference. Heroic time of 11-12 min approx

If lose water make fewer mil units and get food eco up asap. Or u can choose to screw ur eco and go for gold control asap. (aka tower spam next to their gold and wall lame). Spam farms if u have to but always get hunt and berries/herdables 1st. Adv heroic around 12 min ish. Spam hydras if u didnt win water yet or are losing.
If win water Focous more on archery cause u have extra wood n gold cause of water battle. While spamming hydras make fortress forward take map/tc control and win. wall both sides off with vills. Earlier the better when u have gold. Spam fishing boats also if u win water.

If u want to adv heroic faster stop at like 15 wood/10 gold rest food until heroic. Make some arrow ships tp raid and defend. Better off going hermes if semi fhing. goal is 9-10 min heroic.

Fhing on medi is fun. i love scylla spam xD. Hermes dino heph
1 dock-house-lc 2wood after 1 drop send to food
1 food
2 wood
1 food
4 food 3 wood total
4 wood
temple
rest food except last 2 gold
adv 515-530 ish u can also use 445/430 bo to fh. keep most vills to food and gold unless u want to make some arrow ships to defend. Dont get ups if 445/430 fake grushing get it if u adv 515-530 ish. Adv heroic 7 min- under 8 min ur goal.
arrange 13-15 gold 4/5 temp some on food if u dont have fishing. rest wood (Get eco ups when adv heroic.)
On way to heroic make barracks/archery ranges in case opp rushes u on land. Win water asap then spam army full pop. Take 1 tc then make fortress asap then take more tc.
http://www.pclive-assistance.fr/share/files/get/gwJARfyg0Z/recorded-game-1.rcx
up early make him think im classical fighting then get good heroic time.

On water you can also make hipps tox cause of extra gold from sylla spam but i prefer hops cause of abillity to hit n run houses to win water battle.

Cent Rush (aka raiding)
6 food
7th vill house then temp then food.
rest food stop at 14 vills
adv
arrange eco 9 wood 3 food 2 pray
3 food, 3 gold, 3 food, (Get hunting dogs on high hunt if not save gold for handaxe). 2 gold, food until 10-13 (Get eco ups this time). 1wood , 1pray. Rest food/ gold until heroic. spam hipps along with cents. Raid oustide hunt 1st. then hit wood vs other greek and norse. vs eggy dont ever do it period!! Effective vs atty on any map as long as you know how to recover eco and keep him inside his base while ur eco become > his.
Another wierd strat is semi cent rush with semi fh/fm. I have some recs games vs ivan on gr site that shows me doing this. Look them up.

Fm/fh vs passive civs
4 food ( get hd)
4 wood
3 gold (Get pick axe)
rest food get hand axe and husbandry along way to classic (asap)
Adv around 515-530 ish
Use heroes Jason + oddy + some tox+ mu to defend. Get tower up and wall towers asap.
make sure to have 3 praying at temp by end of archaic. Make 2 barracks 1 archery range + armory when u have res. (Make some of the mil buildings so ur opp doesnt suspect fh.)
Get heroic around 8-9 min
Get mythic 10-11 min
u can also get 2nd tc for 2tc fm around 11-12 min ish
get heph cheap armory ups and heavy up asap. Focous more on mil now instead of eco. After u fend off pressure from opp boom like crazy. Then watch coll spam + myrms+heroes+hellopilis win for you. If u didnt balance eco enough and dont have the favor dont worry. Spam coll and petlasts vs eggy.

Hades Strats

Ares Rush vs norse and atty 410-430 adv
High hunt
4 food
2wood
2 gold
1food
1 house go to wood/ then build temple when have res
3 food (that vill builds temp)_
1gold
8-3-3 now total
19 vill total when u click adv
rest food until advance
1 stables then 1 archery then another stable after wood comes in. This is more of raiding strat since u want to stop their mill production and then cripple their eco asap with ur raids. arrange eco the way u want to.

435-445 variation of ares rush
Do same thing as above buy dont make last 2 vills make ajax instead. Good if u want to harass chubby atty vills or other civs vills. No1 expects ares rush anymore :/ people now adays always go athena bs as hades. this idea works the same way for poseidon.

Fh vs norse.
6-3-3 rest food except last 2 go to wood and gold. or go 7-3-3 ,7-4-4, or 8-4-4
515-530 ish adv. 730-830 adv time preferibly.
build walls next to sents and towers. When heroic spam prodomos lions and tox.







I will post games and screenshots when i have time. Also ill post ares rush with hades and possy later. Feel free to comment


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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:02 am

cant wait for the vids and screenies lol

nice guide Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:01 pm

good to see you're still alive iamlegend Smile

so how about joining me in the team tourney?

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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:47 am

i need to play with greeks vs sum1 decent to show the general strats xD. So..... ive been playing team games for the last couple weeks to prepare 4 tourney Very Happy. Will try to update guide with more recs xD.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:39 am

u need a better classical advance, 4:15 is actually late bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:08 am

earlier than 415 is not late for athena rush. its a bit too early. U wont have enough wood for 2 barracks and spam hops out of them. 2 rax spamming hops + vill production costs alot of food and 415 eco isnt strong enough to support it. 420 ish is the fastest athena rush that ive seen work spamming out hops from 2 rax done by hr. Earlier than 415 athena rush would be villie rush which is not a really sound stratefy ecept vs atty. Plus almost always the atty will 4 min or 330 rush u because they think u will cent rush/ atty know greek late game > atty late game so they want to finish off game asap. So its really not smart idea to adv 415 or earlier for hop rush, villie rush doesnt work more than half of time so.... Plyz andrew imo u dont know what the heck u talking about xD
415 is not a late advance
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:20 am

4:15 isnt late? tell that to a Lokier
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:21 am

i think 4:50 is a good timing for athena rush. I used to win against all norses using that way Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:47 am

Andrw_13 wrote:
4:15 isnt late? tell that to a Lokier
loki takes longer to build a base and such, besides, upping earlier doesn't mean you win. I usually do a 4:30 vs norse and it always works.

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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:52 pm

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Andrw_13 wrote:
4:15 isnt late? tell that to a Lokier
loki takes longer to build a base and such, besides, upping earlier doesn't mean you win. I usually do a 4:30 vs norse and it always works.
i have done 4:15 vs norse and lost cuz of raiders rush, idk who u play with
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:48 pm

How many raiders 1? oh im terribly sorry was that 2? Rolling Eyes this shouldin't be said but villys are strong enough to fend that off.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:09 am

if u adv 415 as zeus and lose to loki rush then ur total noob who cant micro for !@#!!! nad cant balance eco. advancing earlier doesnt equal win. Its about being aggressive and out ecoing/ laming ur opponent.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:54 am

no i was atis thats and villies are slow and are just two so u cant atack the rushers which makes the rush actually effective vs atis, i met a guy who makes a classical age at 4:40 and rushed like hell w/ lots of micro
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:51 pm

Andrw_13 wrote:
Mirez wrote:
Andrw_13 wrote:
4:15 isnt late? tell that to a Lokier
loki takes longer to build a base and such, besides, upping earlier doesn't mean you win. I usually do a 4:30 vs norse and it always works.
i have done 4:15 vs norse and lost cuz of raiders rush, idk who u play with
plz don't go there, I'm 99% sure I'm more skilled and knowledgeable about this game then you. Believe me 4:30 works fine and you should always defeat norse with it. If you lose you are doing something else wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:17 pm

Mirez wrote:
Andrw_13 wrote:
Mirez wrote:
Andrw_13 wrote:
4:15 isnt late? tell that to a Lokier
loki takes longer to build a base and such, besides, upping earlier doesn't mean you win. I usually do a 4:30 vs norse and it always works.
i have done 4:15 vs norse and lost cuz of raiders rush, idk who u play with
plz don't go there, I'm 99% sure I'm more skilled and knowledgeable about this game then you. Believe me 4:30 works fine and you should always defeat norse with it. If you lose you are doing something else wrong.
Nevermind, its been a long time since i played a Lokier, they seem to be obsolete whith the atis FH
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:00 am

wth is atis. Is it atty? Dont fh vs norse as atty unless ur gaia.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:16 am

i was gaia indeed
atis= atty study
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:24 am

um andrew i think your a noob lamer aka troller give me a game name and we can see if you can play or are you just laming............................The End El Fin
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:00 pm

what a dumb post

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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:40 pm

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what a dumb post

lol out of curiosity who is this for?

pk clown or andrew?
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:23 pm

the post above mine goldylocks' post

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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:55 pm

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um andrew i think your a noob lamer aka troller give me a game name and we can see if you can play or are you just laming............................The End El Fin
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:16 am

o clown is gay but i can say that cause i know him but it was for this andrew guy who i think played my friend mike but wouldnt play me so....

Watch your mouth mate future flaming wont be permited.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:30 am

i might split the guide up into 3 individual guides. 1 for zeus, hades and possy. Let me know if u guys want that. Ill update guide when i have some spare time over the weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: Updated greek guide by iamlegend   Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:38 am

IamLegend wrote:
i might split the guide up into 3 individual guides. 1 for zeus, hades and possy. Let me know if u guys want that. Ill update guide when i have some spare time over the weekend.

yes, as i was reading a bit of your hades guide and was interested a bit in it Very Happy
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