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PostSubject: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:30 pm

Estimated Note :9/10
Number of players :2
Type :Supremacy
Map :Oasis
Duration :like 20 minutes in change
Players' name with gods(arranged by team) :BMF_Blahhh (Kronos) Vs Argol (Hades)
Short description :I so had him in the start man but his base was just fortified so well and i use to much turma's so his hipps raped me and his heroes killed my behemoths so quick (bad microing in my side :/) and then he made a really good comeback and basically would have prob beaten me Sad, how he came back idk and i know i am a noob for not beating him especially when he was in that position that he was in early, we eventually became friends so gg to you Argol.
Link to dl the game :http://www.pclive-assistance.fr/share/files/get/IOvpKC22NA/argol-hadesvsbmf-wahhh-kronos-on-oasis-map.rcx
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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:44 pm

You put 2 citizens on gold in the start, when you didnt need so much gold except if u wer making 2 tcs, & you even went to classic later than him! & you kept ur some of ur citizen idle I think. & you attacked his ajax/vills when you wer in classic . you shudnt do that , atty vills are less stronger & weaker & slower than other civ vills. & you didnt have right counters when you attacked him, you made all archers & he made cavalry, if u saw him make them , you should have made murms & katas. & when you were attacking with behems, you didnt attack his heroes with ur turmas. I think that was where you went wrong , & you left him to gold without raiding in south part of map ...
Here is my example game[Kronos] vs a hades [I just played it on ESO, he had rating 1657 lol]
: http://www.pclive-assistance.fr/share/files/get/wDlIe74y91/kronos-vs-hadeseso-game.rcx
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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:14 pm

[UrK]_Epsilon wrote:
You put 2 citizens on gold in the start, when you didnt need so much gold except if u wer making 2 tcs, & you even went to classic later than him! & you kept ur some of ur citizen idle I think. & you attacked his ajax/vills when you wer in classic . you shudnt do that , atty vills are less stronger & weaker & slower than other civ vills. & you didnt have right counters when you attacked him, you made all archers & he made cavalry, if u saw him make them , you should have made murms & katas. & when you were attacking with behems, you didnt attack his heroes with ur turmas. I think that was where you went wrong , & you left him to gold without raiding in south part of map ...
Here is my example game[Kronos] vs a hades [I just played it on ESO, he had rating 1657 lol]
: http://www.pclive-assistance.fr/share/files/get/wDlIe74y91/kronos-vs-hadeseso-game.rcx

yes i know i made few mistakes i was just so confident i was going to win and thought i would have killed any of his units with upgraded massed turmas with behemoths :/ and i shud have raided in lower left side of map to trap him but i did not but i will do so next game i have vs hades and thanks for help Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:14 pm

no prob ^^ & if u need more advice against greeks with atty, I think you should take map control, 4 tc > 2 tc, or gold starve him. Maybe ask Mirez, he is always a professional adviser Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:24 pm

I'll have a look

- okay, well unless it's a "high hunt" oasis you'll be best of not making an eco guild, in fact oasis normally an excellent map for a krush (3:30 kronos rush). However he had very nice gold this time so you got lucky there.
- the "standard" atlanthean build order is 2 food 1 wood 1 gold food till up, no point in getting gold earlier
- when you were classical you had 5 on food and only 1 on gold, which isn't smart since you were making turma and gold, you only need food to support villager production
- you kinda wasted that first deconstruction, the tower was unprotected so your behemoth could've easily taken it down.
- stop making turma for so long, turma-promethean are great in the start since it costs no food and turma are awesome early on, but when you get heroic start making murmillo-arcus with some turma for raiding purposes (you send arcus over to kill his villagers but they couldn't escape from the hippikon he sent)
- do not make contarius, they are horrible. The only time contarius are good is when they have both thea's upgrades and are heroes, however kronos doesn't have thea so just don't make contarius.

a piece general advice, never attack where your opponent wants you to attack. When your opponent turtled himself up with towers don't send units in their demise. Make sure he isn't mining gold outside his base and boom to titan.

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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:50 pm

Mirez wrote:
I'll have a look

- okay, well unless it's a "high hunt" oasis you'll be best of not making an eco guild, in fact oasis normally an excellent map for a krush (3:30 kronos rush). However he had very nice gold this time so you got lucky there.
- the "standard" atlanthean build order is 2 food 1 wood 1 gold food till up, no point in getting gold earlier
- when you were classical you had 5 on food and only 1 on gold, which isn't smart since you were making turma and gold, you only need food to support villager production
- you kinda wasted that first deconstruction, the tower was unprotected so your behemoth could've easily taken it down.
- stop making turma for so long, turma-promethean are great in the start since it costs no food and turma are awesome early on, but when you get heroic start making murmillo-arcus with some turma for raiding purposes (you send arcus over to kill his villagers but they couldn't escape from the hippikon he sent)
- do not make contarius, they are horrible. The only time contarius are good is when they have both thea's upgrades and are heroes, however kronos doesn't have thea so just don't make contarius.

a piece general advice, never attack where your opponent wants you to attack. When your opponent turtled himself up with towers don't send units in their demise. Make sure he isn't mining gold outside his base and boom to titan.

ii always end up attacking right in front of the base like a idiot and ok so i basically trap him inside his fortified base just like epsilon did it and either do titan or gold starve him and kkill his remaining army till he resigns right? ok i got it thanks and i forget to put from food to gold and wood while upping but i know what to do thanks again guys Smile
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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:28 pm

once he finds out he's not gunna get any gold he will probably resign, it's a good idea to forward build near his goldmines as well (psychological effect)

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PostSubject: Re: had him but shit got bad nd then it disconnected....   Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:11 pm

Mirez wrote:
once he finds out he's not gunna get any gold he will probably resign, it's a good idea to forward build near his goldmines as well (psychological effect)

yes yes in other words he loses will power to even try ty mirez
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