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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:04 pm
...... ur coment ...... is a bit..... obvious...... tox die easy to terma.... idk what ur point is
Evil_Vegito
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:08 pm
you say"hops are awesome". I said that "hops die very easy to tox." True tox die to turmas. But you can't avoid making tox to protect your hips from murms.
Andrw_13
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:05 pm
Not true at all, did u know 1 murm would die vs a hip?
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{PK}Mirez
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:20 pm
[UrK]_Vegito wrote:
you say"hops are awesome". I said that "hops die very easy to tox." True tox die to turmas. But you can't avoid making tox to protect your hips from murms.
If you think hades is stronger because hades has stronger archers and zeus has stronger hoplites you are horribly wrong. In a 1v1 they are pretty even (like all greeks are) except for on water. In general I'd say zeus is better then hades, he does a lot better vs atties and norse.
Evil_Vegito
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:49 am
1 spearmen will die for 1 hip. 1 hopolite will die for 1 hip. 1 murm will die for one hip.I tested it 5+times. But when you make full hips all your your hips cannot attack all of the opponents soldiers. As for"hops do btter against atties" hops get hit by turmas where as hips don't. So hips>hops and don't make full hops against atties. As for the "good vs norse" i agree, taking out towers is easier with zeus. Iam not saying that zeus hopolites are bad. They are good in heroic with heavy infantry upgrade. But they are not that effective in the classical age except against norse (against eggy if you plan on gold starving from the starting).
{PK}Mirez
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:08 pm
[UrK]_Vegito wrote:
1 spearmen will die for 1 hip. 1 hopolite will die for 1 hip. 1 murm will die for one hip.I tested it 5+times. But when you make full hips all your your hips cannot attack all of the opponents soldiers. As for"hops do btter against atties" hops get hit by turmas where as hips don't. So hips>hops and don't make full hops against atties. As for the "good vs norse" i agree, taking out towers is easier with zeus. Iam not saying that zeus hopolites are bad. They are good in heroic with heavy infantry upgrade. But they are not that effective in the classical age except against norse (against eggy if you plan on gold starving from the starting).
hip beats a lot of units because they have take 3 pop and are therefore better, if you put 2 hips (6 pop) vs 3 hops (6 pop) the hops will win. Hops are better vs atty because they deal bonus damage vs turma and turma have only 5% hack armor. Tbh atty doesn't have anything to defeat hoplites except for promethean and the way to expansive and slow cheiroballista. However I always tell people to make all 3 hip hop and tox vs atties.
Evil_Vegito
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:17 pm
hopolites can't catch those turmas(especially oranos turmas) though they have bonus damage against turmas. So retreat and attack thing frustates us. Instead go for more hips(not saying all hips) less hops.
Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:20 pm
try it .
{PK}Mirez
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:15 pm
[UrK]_Vegito wrote:
If the opponent is microing his ships, then why would he hit the pegasus instead of our ships??
If you opponent can micro that well he's probably a 1800+ player anyways.
Evil_Vegito
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:45 pm
thats not true. Even 155+ guys micro ships.
{PK}Mirez
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:57 pm
Not at that level, the ships auto target the pegasi because they are the closest by. Meaning you have to redirect every individual ship every few seconds.
Evil_Vegito
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:53 pm
Mirez wrote:
Not at that level, the ships auto target the pegasi because they are the closest by. Meaning you have to redirect every individual ship every few seconds.
Thats how a 155+ guy micros............
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Subject: Re: Zeus vs Isis(Mirez) Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:59 pm